A typical conversation

Theist - “Everything we see has a cause, so everything MUST have a cause.”

Rational thinker - “So it follows that there is an infinite causal chain, which our finite minds cannot comprehend.”

Theist - “NO! There was an uncaused cause which started it all, and I call this God”

Rational thinker - “I thought you just said that everything MUST have a cause? What caused God?”

Theist - “Nothing. He exists beyond space and time and operates in a plane that is immune from causal chains”

Rational thinker - “How could you determine if that really is true or not, and how many planes which are immune from casual chains exist?”

Theist - “I have faith”

Rational thinker - “That’s not very logical”

Theist - “Yeah, well your being irrational and you’re obviously biased against my views!”

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